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Interview with Sudhir Mishra - Page 2
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Written by Nivedita Ravishankar   
Sunday, 25 January 2009 10:57
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Question: What are your influences, particularly since some of your films have political themes?


Sudhir Mishra: I have a very complicated background. I grew up in a university campus, my father was a film society founder in Lucknow and I grew up watching all sorts of films when I was 4, sitting in his lap, films that my mother didn't want me to see. My father was a very ecletic sort of guy. He never had the view that a certain kind of film was good or bad. So I got to see Dara Singh, Charlie Chaplin, some Czech films, French films and a lot of Hollywood classics together.

I guess the feeling of wanting to be in films got ingrained there and later there's been an influence of Marxism, the Student Movement, of growing up in a university with all sorts of people - Palestinians, Israelis, Malaysians, Africans etc. I have a political background thanks to my family and I have known mainstream politics enough to get a little put off by it. I grew up in a small town called Sagar. My family was in Lucknow, then came to Delhi and then to Bombay. I have been in Bombay for more than 25 years and am as "Mumbaikar" as anyone else.

Question: Most people know you as the director of Hazaron Khwaishen Aisi and Khoya Khoya Chand. Very few people know that you started off as a scriptwriter for Jaane Bhi Do Yaaron. Whoever I spoke to was very surprised when I told them this. You started your directorial career with Yeh Woh Manzil Toh Nahin. Can you tell us something about your early films, since we don't get to see them these days?


Sudhir Mishra: My first film as an assistant was Sazaa-e-Maut which was made in 1981. It was Vinod Chopra's first film, starring Naseeruddin Shah and a film much ahead of its time and rather good. Then I met Kundan Shah who was, at that time, working on Jaane Bhi Do Yaaron. When you write scripts, you often stare at the wall and I think his family thought he wasn't doing much. So he started writing in my house. I was 23 at the time when Kundan asked me to work with him and must have done something for him to have given me credit for the script of Jaane Bhi Do Yaaron.

But ultimately it's Kundan's film. It was wonderful working on that film with a great group of actors, people like Satish Kaushik and Ranjit Kapoor writing dialogue. It was a learning school for me and I am very fond of that film because for the first time, I realized that I could be a filmmaker and that this community and process was something that I loved. It was a fantastic time when 30 people were sitting together, not shooting. People like Naseer entered my life and taught me about film acting. I met Saeed Mirza there and he asked me to join him as an assistant on "Mohan Joshi Hazir Ho" and I became its scriptwriter. So there was this great family that I had found at that time, including those that were not directly involved like Ketan Mehta and Shekhar Kapur who are still good friends.


I made my first film "Yeh Woh Manzil Toh Nahin" with a lot of help from all these people. In those days, these kind of films were not released very widely but the Doordarshan premiere was very important and was seen by a lot of people. It was quite a cult film of its time and a lot of people still tell me that it is my best film. It is about 3 old men who go back to the town they studied in where there's an agitation going on in the university and that agitation reminds them of their past and it is intercut with their revolution, much like Rang De Basanti. I cut between the student movements happening in two different times. The 3 old men had betrayed their fellow revolutionaries in their time and they are now faced with an activism of a different kind. The last line of the film became pretty famous and is still quoted in north India. When they say - "What's the difference? The person who is a revolutionary now and who was a revolutionary then. Both died", Habib Tanvir who's the lead actor of the film says - "Koshish Toh Ki" (At least we tried).


Question: Most of the people who have seen Dharavi were swept away by the first 5 minutes of the film. Could you tell us how you came up with that scene?


Sudhir Mishra: I used to live in Sion which is in Bombay (Mumbai now). A lot of people who live in Dharavi say they live in Sion because there's a stigma attached to that. I used to walk around a lot in those areas and those days, we used to drink too much (laughs). We went into those places and "knew" people, not for research purposes because I think you make a film well when you know your subject well and not because you decide to make a film and then do research. You make films on things you have already researched in life. So it all comes from that.

I remember the image of a camel running on a Dharavi street and suddenly the camel is shot and it falls in slow motion. A lot of people like that shot. I think the problem of a migrant is that, there's a line in Dharavi which says, "Yeh reth ka jaanwar idhar samandar ke paas kaiko marne aaya hai" (Why has this desert animal come to die by the sea?). So it was this idea of people who bring camels to the beaches of Mumbai and just leave them to die. These camels used to wander around sometimes in the dark of the night, a still camel that no one could see . Once I remember my autorickshaw banging into one and it was really tragic to see a noble animal treated like that. Whoever's responsible for stopping camels from coming into the city deserves congratulations from me.


Dharavi was the problem of a migrant. I was a migrant. A migrant treates the city more roughly than the original inhabitant. So Shabana portrayed a woman for whom Mumbai was her "gaon" (village). She has nowhere to go but a migrant has nowhere to go either. The place that he has left has changed because home is a place in time, it's your memory. So what does a person in Dharavi, a taxidriver who has lost his roots,do? He's influenced by Hindi films and Madhuri Dixit agreed to spoof herself which was very kind of her. Amongst all my films, I still like Dharavi the best.

 



 

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Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 26 2009 23:22:04
A question for Ravi, Bhalla (and anybody else who shares their opinion) - any reaction to the fact that directors who impressed you (like Mishra and Jaideep Varma) have seemingly unanimous praise for Anurag Kashyap? Is that a niche industry thing, or where is that coming from? Haven't seen any of his films myself, so I'm sort of curious in a bystander-like fashion.
#8888
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 26 2009 23:25:43
Yeah, I want Chacko's question answered too. What do you folks make of Kashyap?
#8889
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 00:09:01
Kashyap's a very ambitious and individualistic director which in itself is a rare thing in the days of hacks. I say this after having seen only Black Friday, which had a lot of holes as far as its research and scripting were concerned, but there's no denying his desire and tenacity to tell the sort of stories that most Hindi film-makers won't even attempt to. No Smoking and Paanch also have unconventional story-lines. He's also full of himself which makes him something of an asshole so far as his blog entries go, but at other times he can be interesting because he's at least not doing the "everyone is nice ji and we work like a family ji" routine.
#8894
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 00:22:52
@ buggshash: i am in mumbai and i'd be much obliged if you could burn me a copy of dharavi. thank you! i asked the man about where his movies could be found and he mentioned this website: jaman.com

@ bhalla and suresh: much thanks, gentlemen. i suppose we could divide the questions amongst ourselves and start transcribing asap, yes?

@ chako and laddu: i haven't seen any of kashyap's earlier movies but dev d does look pretty damn impressive. let's hope he doesn't do a 300 with a kickass trailer and a fuckall movie.
#8896
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 00:24:03
I just saw Black Friday and I liked it. He certainly made some lapses but overall it was a tight flick. It certainly takes some balls to portray some of the scenes [ families being used as baits] and some dialogues the way they were. I heard a lot of praise abt No-smoking but never managed to see it. At least it is some fresh air from the usual spunk coming out of Bollywood.
#8897
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 01:20:14
trix wrote:
@ buggshash: i am in mumbai and i'd be much obliged if you could burn me a copy of dharavi. thank you! i asked the man about where his movies could be found and he mentioned this website: jaman.com


Cool! Jaman has Main Zinda Hoon but still no Yeh Woh Manzil Toh nahi
#8904
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 01:46:28
@Chacko - I guess the one reason Mr. Mishra and Jaideep have a favourable opinion of Kashyap is that he gives filmmakers like them a platform to vent their opinions and promote their films through his passionforcinema website. He has a legion of fans who swallow everything he has to say thanks to Black Friday, his avowed support for world cinema posing as a desi Tarantinoesque figure and the fact that he has been highly vocal against a lot of mainstream Bollywood personalities in interviews (particularly Anil Kapoor and the Darshans). He has a big hand in drawing his fans into their films by posting reviews on them. If I remember right, he was the first guy to unreservedly recommend both Hulla and Khoya Khoya Chand.

Plus, as Suresh said, he makes films that are very unconventional regardless of their merits. I was pretty mixed on Black Friday. I thought it was technically marvellous but really loose in it's scripting. No Smoking was much better, despite being pretentious at times and having John Abraham in the lead. My opinion is that he hasn't made a lot of films for anyone to really know how good he is. So any praise for his skills as a filmmaker by the industry guys has to be because they like his passion for the profession and expect great things from him, which is fair enough.

I don't mind all the adulation he gets but yeah, he can be very annoyingly self indulgent as a result and resort to things like name dropping obscure French directors at festivals just to make him look even better.
#8906
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 01:50:44
Order Number: 2901
Date Ordered: Monday 26 January, 2009
Click here for a Detailed Invoice
Products
1 x Yeh Woh Manzil To Nahin (VCD) Rs 99
1 x Dharavi (VCD) Rs 99


Found this on some site called linux bazar who have COD. Really hoping this comes through.
#8907
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 08:27:12
I couldn't stand Black Friday. It was overlong and almost psychotically obsessed with being 'sympathetic' to the people who engineered and carried out the blasts. To the extent that the vacuous cow, Raageshwari (who assaulted our ears with the treble farting of 'Duniya' through the mid-90s), who was at the screening I attended said during the interval: "It's so terrible! The way the police were beating that poor man." I wanted to tell her "that 'poor man' blew this city up. He totally had it coming!" but seeing as I was there with tickets I'd cadged off a colleague, didn't want to cause a scene. And then the part where Dawood shows up for the first time is built on the lines of the definitive 'badass villain' entry and it wouldn't have surprised me in the least if people began to whistle or cheer. I still think it was a necessary film to be made though, if only to let more filmmakers consider making movies on contemporary history. Hopefully, someone will come up with an equally sympathetic film about the people affected by those blasts, many of whom had their careers seriously impaired.

I had all of Bhalla's reservations about No Smoking but liked it somewhat in spite of its shortcomings. Dev D from the trailers seems really interesting though.
#8911
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 12:37:04
trix wrote:


@ bhalla and suresh: much thanks, gentlemen. i suppose we could divide the questions amongst ourselves and start transcribing asap, yes?


Yes. You do the division.
#8921
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 13:08:59
@ bhalla and suresh: let's do this is three installments. bhalla, it would be great if you can take the first five questions, transcribe and post them.
suresh, please take the next five questions, transcribe and post.
i'll work on the last five once this week is through.
kapisch?
#8923
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 13:38:20
I think it'd be better if we do the instalment transcripts and mail the docs to you, then you can upload the final piece.
#8926
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Jan 27 2009 19:12:29
ravenus wrote:
I think it'd be better if we do the instalment transcripts and mail the docs to you, then you can upload the final piece.

all right, let's do that then.
#8954
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 11:40:51
@trix:
I PM'ed you about this earlier. I'm done with my bit of the transcript (Q.6-10). You guys get your stuff done and let's put this up before this piece gets old and redundant.
#9169
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 12:15:41
Finally heard this. Great interview and I think I'm one of those fans who loved Is Raat Ki Subaah Nahin and didn't really like anything else that I've seen of his. Great interview.
#9170
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 14:00:17
ravenus wrote:
@trix:
I PM'ed you about this earlier.


where did you PM me?

@gk: thanks! i've only seen hazaaron and khoya khoya chand and liked them both. i want to watch all his earlier stuff now.
#9180
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 14:11:14
We don't have PM setup here. He's bullshitting you.
#9182
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 17:36:22
I meant "e-mail" link on your profile...unless you signed up here with some bullshit e-mail you only use to sign up on sites for.
#9183
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 18:02:35
So, Suresh anna looks like somebody inhaled no? :p
#9184
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 18:09:56
You're the guy that liked Is Raat ki Subah Nahin. Go figure.
#9185
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 21:05:43
Now, you've been PM'ed, Ravenus.

no. wait. e-mailed.
#9189
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 01 2009 21:53:07
I shall PM aka email my share by tomorrow morning.
#9192
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 05 2009 19:15:40
@ kikuchiyo: have you e-mailed me yet?
#9354
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Feb 16 2009 11:49:19
With respect to Sudhir Mishra's Devdas I think the latest news is that he has shelved it. The apparent reason is that he doubted he could give it a sufficiently different experience from Dev.D
#9511
Re:Interview with Sudhir Mishra
Mar 06 2009 00:10:19
Kikuchiyo wrote:
Order Number: 2901
Date Ordered: Monday 26 January, 2009
Click here for a Detailed Invoice
Products
1 x Yeh Woh Manzil To Nahin (VCD) Rs 99
1 x Dharavi (VCD) Rs 99


Found this on some site called linux bazar who have COD. Really hoping this comes through.


Did you get these? I am planning to order a few movies from them
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